1971-2: Bad Manor (Lead Vocals), 1973-5: Dirk Rivers (Bass and support vocals), 1976: Bacon Fat (Bass), 1977-8: Murphy Brothers Band (Bass and vocals),1977 Performances with Stephen Rush and Tim Heldt, 1978-1987:Turning Point (Bass and Vocals), 2004-present: Old Rangers (Bass and Vocals)
(Co-Editor of West Mich Music Hysterical Society)
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